Hi all,
when using the framework, one key part is to generate insights which are used to generate orders.
Besides the symbol and the direction a period is necessary for inside creation.
Insights.Add(Insight.Price(Symbol, insightPeriod, InsightDirection));
What is about algos which depend on distinct events like crossovers or other indicator values, where a period can not be determined beforehand. e.d. buy on SMA(short) > SMA(long), sell on SMA(short) < SMA(long).
How to create Insights or in general framwork components for such algorithms?
Is this style of algorithms meant for the framework at all?
Thx
Rahul Chowdhury
Hi Eugene,
In general, insights don't correlate directly to orders, rather they correlate to a prediction about market movements. The insight period should be the approximate time the prediction is valid. If an insight expires while the signal is still active because the period was too short, you can emit repeated insights to sustain a position.
There is no set way of determining the prediction interval. For example, for a SMA crossover strategy, you could use the period of the fast SMA. You can approximate how long the signal may be valid for.
Keep in mind, insights also require weights and other parameters. You can learn more about creating insights in the documentation
Best
Rahul
Pierre Vidal
Hi Eugene, Rahul,
I have also been struggling with this: which duration to set for insights when we cannot know in advance for how long the prediction will remain valid?
As much as I support the separation of concern and modularity explained by Rahul, it is very difficult in practice to think of insights in total abstraction of how they will actually be used... For example I would not want a position to be flattened just because I set a too short duration for the insight and it has expired (most portfolio construction models create flat targets for securities on insight expiry).
So far my solution has been:
- To set a minimum frequency for insights emission (say at least once a week) - but it could be more often, depending on new data
- Set the longest possible duration for all insights (e.g. 8 days in my example accounting for possible holiday), that way insights are systematically overridden before they expire
- To explicitly emit flat insights when the expected outcome is to flatten the position (i.e. if the security is invested and the signal says flat, emit a flat insight)
Interested in additional advice or suggestions.BestJared Broad
HI Pierre,
The three bullet points you've mentioned above are ways to work around using the framework to accomplish what you're intending, however:
The separation will become more important as you start reconstituting modules between projects. Emitting a down prediction for Apple might be an option-hedging opportunity for one algorithm. or a short, or a buy signal to set up for a long term investment.
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Eugene
Hi Jared, Pierre Rahul,
thx. for sharing your ideas/thoughts.
I ll try to implement the idea of predictiveness also from the time/expiration perspective, if possible.
And otherwise use the work around from Pierre.
Pierre Vidal
Hi Jared, Eugene,
I like the examples of separation of concern, this is really powerful.
Yet would there be a downside in allowing the alpha author to emit the insight with undetermined duration and later explicitly trigger its expiry if/when needed (rather than requiring the duration to be defined a priori)?
I kind of wish I could emit a prediction valid "until further notice" (or until some condition that I monitor is met).
Just a suggestion, as previously noted we can achieve what we want with the current features.
Regards
Jared Broad
Thanks for the feedback, Pierre. I think the classic style of algorithm might be closer to what you're seeking. Alpha models should purely emit signals, and a key component of expected return is the time horizon. It is certainly harder but forces good habits. If the core signal is still valid as mentioned its perfectly fine to emit a follow-up signal.
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Eugene
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