It's so hard as a little fish in a big pond to really convince myself one way or the other as to whether stops are the way to go. I did an experiment once in interactivebrokers where I just bought 1000$ (ish) of 10 different equities, and set 10% trialing stop to each of them... by the time all positions were closed, it had been 2 months and total p/l was 0%, but if i'd just bought and held for those 2 months i'd have been 3% across those 10... I can do larger or longer tests, but it feels like If I really want the answer to the 'is this generally even worth looking at, or do stops suck' it is going to take me years... someone must already have a lot of real world experience in this area and have something helpful to say about it? :)
I know some brokerages are removing visible stops from the market, and banning stops on various exchanges, because stops generally are going thru a rough period vs algo firms like citadel... don't know if this matters with such small size.
.ekz.
Look into volatility adjusted stops. Instead of placing the stop at some fixed value like 10%, the distance of the stop will be recalculated based on volatility.
I use this for trend following and I find it works rather well.
You can google "ATR trailing stop". There are lots of available resources (and code) out there.
Shile Wen
Hi Ben,
In some cases, stops can increase performance, while in other cases, stops can decrease performance. With that said, stops are a great way of reducing volatility in the portfolio as well as limiting extreme losses.Visible stops are made through limit orders, so for users who wish to conceal their stops, I'd suggest using Stop Market Orders. However, please note that Stop Market Orders more often fill at worse prices because they are delayed in reacting to market movements.
Best,
Shile Wen
Ben Lynch
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